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Draft minutes of the sixteenth meeting of the
Informal Working Group (IWG) on
Periodical Technical Inspection (PTI)

 

15 November 2019, 09:30 – 12:30

Palais des Nations, Geneva, Switzerland

 

Attendees:

Mr Vitaly Komarov, Co-Chair, The Russian Federation
Mr Hens Peeters Weem, Co-Chair, RDW, The Netherlands
Mr Edwin Bastiaensen, IMMA, NGO
Mr Hens Bussink, RDW, The Netherlands
Mr François Guichard, ECE
Mr Eun Seok Kim, KOTSA, South Korea
Mr Ignacio Lafuente, IDIADA, Spain
Mr Jörgen Leed, VOLVO/ACEA/OICA, NGO
Mr Jongsoon Lim, KOTSA, South Korea
Mr Thomas McMahon, TOYOTA/ACEA/OICA, NGO
Mr Walter Niewöhnen, CITA, NGO
Mr Walter Nissler, ECE
Mr Vladimir Papic, AMSS-CMV, Serbia
Mr Jin Dong Park, KOTSA, South Korea
Mr Vladan Popovic, AMSS-CMV, Serbia
Mr Bernhard Reiter, CITA, NGO
Mr Armand Scheyen, VOLVO/ACEA/OICA, NGO
Mr Ralph Schröder, FSD, NGO
Mr Satoshi Uemoto, JASIC, Japan
Mr Ian Yarnold, DfT, UK
Mr Byoung Il Yoon, KOTSA, South Korea
Mr Eduard Fernández, CITA, NGO, S ecretary

1.                    Welcome

Mr Komarov and Mr Peeters-Weem, co-chairs, welcomed all attendees.

2.                    Adoption of the agenda

Documentation: PTI-1 6 -0 1

The agenda was adopted with the following changes:

eCall: to be included in item 11

Publication of the review of 1997 Agreement and Rules 3 and 4: to be included in item 11

Addition of the following documents:

WP.29-179-22: item 4 and 6
PTI-16-02: item 5
PTI-16-03 and WP.29-179-19 : item 6

3.                    Approval of the minutes of the previous meeting

Documentation: PTI-15-06

The minutes were approved with the following changes:

  • The name of the organization of the representatives of Serbia was corrected to “ AMSS-CMV”
  • The reference to “GRVA” was corrected in item 5
  • Item 8 has been modified adding the sentence: “ OEMs representatives questioned the project.”

4.                    Priorities of the group and timeline

Documentation: PTI-13-03
WP.29-177-15
WP.29-179-22

Mr. Komarov made reference to the document WP.29-179-22 presented during the last session of WP.29, highlighting several procedures to ensure continuous compliance of the vehicle: CoP and in-service conformity in frame of the 1958 Agreement, market surveillance, PTI/roadside inspections in frame of the 1997 Agreement.  The data collected in the processes can be used by the Contracting parties for proper safety management. The mentioned international legal acts shall be interconnected and could be united in future. He emphasized that certain UN Regulations already contain provisions for PTI. He proposed to consider the results of PTI as part of the in-service conformity schemes.

 

The Netherlands and Sweden already gave support to that presentation during WP.29.

 

The group agreed on keeping on working in the subject paying special attention to the definitions since the use of the term “compliance” have some legal implications.

5.                    Coordination of the IWG on PTI with other WP.29 activities

Documentation: PTI-15-05
PTI-16-02

The group thanked Serbia for the document PTI-16-02 and agreed on requesting more in-depth analysis. CITA committed to support Serbia on this activity and to develop a document for the next meeting of the IWG, considering a definition of priorities since the whole coordinations is a considerable activity.

Mr. Komarov recalled the consideration of PTI and roadside inspections as an element of in-service conformity. The Netherlands highlighted that type approval is an activity that involves vehicle manufacturer, whereas vehicle inspection impacts individuals.

To improve the efficiency of the IWG on PTI and the development of UN Regulations, UNECE recommended the group to propose a general framework so that UN Regulations contain the most appropriate approach in view of whole vehicles’ lifetime. They also underlined the importance of finding the correct definitions of the used terms, paying particular attention to the use of the concept “compliance”. In any case, modifications to UN Regulations, even to include provisions facilitating PTI, shall be decided in GRs.

The Netherlands mentioned that there is a lack of harmonisation regarding how to consider vehicles’ modifications, and how to consider elements that are not mandatory. Mr Lafuente brought attention to the fact that many requirements for non-mandatory devices contained the concept “if fitted”. CITA expressed that even if not mandatory, it is necessary to make an analysis of the implications of the removal of each particular system to assess safety.

The United Kingdom stated that it is necessary to justify any further requirement. The group unanimously agreed on that.

6.                    In-service compliance

Documentation: WP29-147-11
WP29-165-07
PTI-10-03
PTI-13-02
WP.29-177-16
PTI-15-04
PTI-16-03
WP.29-179-22
WP.29-179 - 19

The group reviewed the document WP.29-179-19 presented by FIA during WP.29 and agreed on the concept vehicle’s lifetime and life-cycle. The Secretariat of WP.29 mentioned there is already some accepted definitions on those concepts and will make those available.

 

OEMs expressed that the proposal of FIA is not approved and, in their opinion, it may create some problems.

7.                    Measures to detect tampering: methods and supervision

Documentation: WP.29-172-24
WP.29-172-25
WP.29-172-26
WP.29-172-28
PTI-08-03
GRPE-78-04
GRPE-79-05

The Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are quite advanced in the development of PN measurement for PTI. The group agreed on studying the possibility of modifying Rule 1 to include that kind of technique, either in a mandatory or alternative basis. The Netherlands, with the support of CITA, will present a proposal during the next meeting of the group.

8.                    Solutions in the PTI field to support the safe operation of highly automated and autonomous vehicles

Documentation: PTI-12-03

The subject considered in other items of the agenda.

9.                    Consistency between the provisions of the 1968 Vienna Convention and the technical provisions for vehicles against the rules in the framework of the 1997 Vienna Agreement

To be kept on the agenda. The group requested Japan about the possibility of having a presentation their developments to inspect electronic systems.

10.               Guidance for road-side technical inspections and enforcement

Documentation: PTI-12-02
WP.29-178-14

ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2019/120

Mr. Komarov recalled that document ECE/TRANS/WP.29/2019/120 had been submitted to WP.29 and was currently under review by the GRs according to their areas of expertise. He announced that this document could be reviewed and considered for voting by AC.4 at its March 2020 session.

11.               Any Other Business

11.1. eCall

The group agreed to prepare a draft Rule on the inspection of eCall Systems. The Russian Federation, with the support of FSD, will present a document during next meetings.

11.2. Publication of the review of the 1997 Regulation and Rules 3 and 4.

The Secretariat of WP.29 informed the modification of the 1997 Agreement and Rules 3 and 4 have been published on November 13th. The Secretariat will prepare a consolidated version of the Agreement to include article 12.

The Secretariat of WP.29 proposed  corrections for  Rule 3 and 4  as follows.

  • Rule 3, item 3, remove square brackets “[“ and “]” in the sentence “Taxis and ambulances.
  • Rule 4, item 3, include sentence before “Passenger-carrying motor vehicles: M 2 above 3,500 kg and M 3 ”, in the same cell, with the text “Taxis and Ambulances”.

The group agreed to review the proposals during the next meetings.

11.3. Workshop on the implementation of the 1997 Agreement

The Secretariat of WP.29 informed that a workshop on the implementation of the 1997 agreement will take place the same day at 14.30 in Room IV of Palais des Nations, which will be an opportunity to exchange views on the best way to implement 1997 Agreement and its Rules.

12. Next meeting

The next meeting will be scheduled in February, likely in Brussels, to prepare next WP.29 session.

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